The Unconventional Dyad is a new, real, and inspiring podcast. Last week, I had a great conversation with Carli, who’s one of the podcast founders and an amazing person.

In Carli’s words, "Joy shares her experience working from a place of goodness rather than a place of ‘lack.’ We also discuss mindfulness in schools and prisons and the importance of reflecting back someone’s goodness, especially to those who haven’t yet found it within themselves.”

If you want to hear more about my life and work, here’s the podcast.